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In an ad earlier this month, Paul's campaign dredged up Perry's support for Al Gore. two blocks from Paul and helped organize a Meet Up group around By the time the new congressional maps were drawn, Paul no. The presidential campaign of Ron Paul, Congressman of Texas, began in early In comparison, Barack Obama – who had the second largest Meetup organization among active Primary Results for New Hampshire; ^ Iowa Caucus Map; ^ Ron Paul: N.H. No reason to let up Associated Press, January 8, 23, broadcast of NBC's 'Meet the Press,' featuring Ron Paul, John Harwood PAUL: To operate our total foreign policy, when you add up.
First of all, the Republican campaigns are all essentially focused on just the first few states to hold caucuses and primaries. Anything that doesn't get them votes or volunteers in Iowa or New Hampshire is a distraction. And second, with the exception of Paul, none of these candidates -- including Obama -- have succeeded in creating anything like a movement behind them in this cycle.
Dean attracted supporters from all over America because Democrats in early were hungrily searching for a candidate who was anti-war and appeared electable.
No issue is currently uniting Republicans in quite the same way. But there's a third reason why we're not seeing Meetup and presidential politics line up the way they did eight years ago. Politically inclined grass-roots activism on both the right and left is alive and well on Meetup in the thriving number of tea party and Occupy Wall Street groups using the site. And they're looking for changes that are much bigger than anything offered by either Republican or Democratic candidates.
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As Meetup founder Heiferman describes in this talk I filmed of him, given Monday to an audience of foundation and nonprofit types in New York, the tea party was, in some ways, born on Meetup. And they are some of the most active Meetups we see on our system," he said. People are not only organized town-by-town, but "they help each other out if one of them has cancer. Now, the Occupy movement, which is only about a month old, is taking off on Meetup as well, with more than 2, " Occupy Together " communities on the site.
There's a photograph of you, Ronald Reagan on the right, heralding your support of Ronald Reagan. And yet you divorced yourself from Ronald Reagan. Well, I'll bet you any money I didn't use the word traitor.
I'll bet you that's somebody else, so I think that's misleading. But a failure, yes, in, in many ways. The government didn't shrink. Ultimately, after he got in office, he said, "All I want to do is reduce the rate of increase in size of government.
My goal is to reduce our government to a constitutional size. I think that--matter of fact, he admitted in his memoirs that he had a total failure in Lebanon, and he said he relearned the Middle East because of that failure.
And so there--he--you know, he But if he's a total failure, why are you using, using his picture in your brochure? Well, because he, he ran on a good program, and his, his idea was a limited government. Get rid of the Department of Education, a strong national defense. I wasn't convinced he was a conservative. Because I represent what Republicanism used to be. I represent the group that wanted to get rid of the Department of Education, the part, that part of the Republican Party that used to be non-interventionists overseas.
There was a time when the Republicans defended individual liberty and the Constitution and decreased spending. So the radicals, the ones who really don't belong in the Republican Party and why the Republican Party is shrinking, why the base is so small, is because they don't stand for these ideals any more. So I stand for the ideals of the Republican Party. I've been elected 10 times as Republican. I've been a Republican all my life except for that one year that I ran as a Libertarian.
But, no, I represent the Republican ideals, I think, much more so that the individuals running for the party right now. If, if you do not win the Republican nomination for president, will you run as an independent in ? I have no intention to do that. I have no intention of doing that. Well, but no intention's a wiggle word.
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Well, OK, I deserve one wiggle now and then, Tim. I mean, what the devil So no--so no Shermanesque statement. Well, I can be pretty darned sure that I have no intention, no plans of doing it, and that's about I don't like people who are such absolutists, "I will never do this, or I will win, I'm going to come in first.
But the door's open a little bit. We haven't even had a race, we have February 5th coming up. We have a campaign to run.
Why--do you ask all the other--how many other candidates have you asked, "Are you going to run as a third party candidate if you don't win? Well, if someone has a history of running as a third party candidate, sure. You ran in '88 as a Libertarian. Yeah, well, I know It's a logical question. So I--ask them, too. Before you go, Mike Huckabee, Republican candidate for president, ran this commercial for Christmas and many thought that the shelf in the back looked like a cross.
You were asked about it on CNN and this is what you said. It reminds me of what Sinclair Lewis once says. He said when fascism comes to this country, it will be wrapped in the flag, carrying a cross.
What does that mean? Fascism or the definition of fascism? Do you believe that Mike Huckabee is Oh, I didn't say that. I said it reminded me--as a matter of fact they caught me completely cold on that. I had not seen the ad, and they just said there was a cross there. And, you know, it was an instantaneous reflex because I knew of Sinclair Lewis about being cautious, because, you know, I--what prompts this is things like the Patriot Act.
Let me go back If you're not a patriot But let me go back to this ad. You do not believe that Mike Huckabee, that ad commercial represents the potential of fascism in the form of a cross. But I think this country, a movement in the last years, is moving toward fascism. Fascism today, the softer term, because people have different definition of fascism, is corporatism when the military industrial complex runs the show, when the--in the name of security pay--pass the Patriot Act.
You don't vote for it, you know, you're not patriotic America. If you don't support the troops and you don't support--if you don't support the war you don't support the troops. It's that kind of antagonism. But we have more corporatism and more abuse of our civil liberties, more loss of our privacy, national ID cards, all this stuff coming has a fascist tone to it. And the country's moving in that direction. That's what I'm thinking about. This was not personalized.
I never even used my opponents names if you, if you notice. So you think we're close to fascism? I think we're approaching it very close.
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One--there's one, there's one documentary that's been put out recently that has generated a lot of interest called "Freedom to Fascism. Were not moving toward Hitler-type fascism, but we're moving toward a softer fascism. Loss of civil liberties, corporations running the show, big government in bed with big business.
So you have the military industrial complex, you have the medical industrial complex, you have the financial industry, you have the communications industry. They go to Washington and spend hundreds of millions of dollars. That's where the control is.
I call that a soft form of fascism, something that is very dangerous. For the record, the Sinclair Lewis Society said that Mr. Lewis never uttered that quote. But others refuted that and put them down and said that--and they found the exact quote where it came from.
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The very latest from Iowa and New Hampshire. Our political roundtable--John Harwood, Chuck Todd--after this station break. Let's go right to the polling numbers. The national numbers, look at that. Rudy Giuliani is now at 20, down 13 points in a month. Giuliani, what caused the decline? But let's go to the states, because this is what really counts. Huckabee is ahead in both polls, 33 to 25 over Romney, 35 to 27 in other, the rest of the lineup there.
Let's go to New Hampshire, some new numbers out today. Three points between McCain and Romney. An earlier poll had it a 7 point race. Chuck Todd, what does it all tell you? Well, there's no Republican front-runner, and until we find out how badly Mitt Romney wins--loses Iowa, and I think that that's the assumption they're under at this point, that, that they're You called it already?
They know that--they're worried they're going to lose Iowa, but they're trying to close the gap. They're trying to close this gap so that they look like they at least have a running start to salvage New Hampshire.
Because their bigger fear right now, the Romney people are absolutely petrified of John McCain. He is on the rise.
He's done if he loses both of those. What they're hoping, as Chuck said, is that they either win--and I wouldn't, given how unpredictable this race is, I wouldn't rule out Romney and his organization pulling out a victory, but if he doesn't win, he needs to be strong in New Hampshire. If he loses both of those back to back to Huckabee and McCain, he's got big problems. A--what Mitt Romney--there're several articles written about his talking about seeing his father marching with Martin Luther King in, in the '60s.
Let's watch what he said earlier this month. Videotape, December 8, MR. I saw my father march with Martin Luther King. End videotape Videotape, last Sunday MR. But you can see what I believed and what my family believed by looking at our, at our lives. My dad marched with Martin Luther King. And then on Thursday, he sought to clarify what he really intended to say.
Advertise Videotape, Thursday MR. If you look at the literature or look at the dictionary, the term 'saw' includes 'being aware of' in the sense I've described. It's a figure of speech and very familiar, and it's very common. I did not see with my own eyes, but I saw him in the sense of being aware of his participation in the great effort.
Tim, I think, if you look at the way Mitt Romney's run his campaign, there's plenty to criticize. Those of us old enough to remember "Leave It to Beaver" sometimes see Eddie Haskell in Mitt Romney going to every constituency group and saying, "You look so lovely, Mrs. I don't think it's a big deal. I actually think this has turned into a little bit of a big deal. The blogs are nuts on it, the conservative blogs, because it's not that this is the first time he's done something like this.
Paul also believes that the United States should depart from all international organizations and global alliances.
Paul wants to end it completely — with some vague exceptions made for disaster relief and humanitarian assistance. He claims that "foreign aid never works to achieve the stated goal of helping the poor of other nations. He has warned against the so-called NAFTA super-highway and the North American Uniona supposed plan to turn the North American continent into an economic union with a single currency and open borders along the lines of the European Union.
Paul has even introduced legislation to prevent this non-event from occurring. He has also claimed that the United Nations "wants to influence our domestic environmental, trade, labor, tax, and gun laws" and that "its global planners fully intend to expand the U. He has broadened the debate on foreign policy. The problem, however, is that a Ron Paul presidency would mean far more than simply an end to foreign wars and the United States playing policeman to the world.
In short, he wants to pull up the drawbridge and separate the United States from all official foreign entanglements, not just the military ones.